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What can a profitable trader expect from investors?

12 August 2016

A valued Darwinex trader e-mailed asking quite a while ago: what can a profitable trader expect from Darwinex?

I promised to answer on a blog-post – something I’ve failed to do for 5 months running …

Trader AuM (assets under management) now public

This post was so long in the making, in fact, that our functionality pipeline made the question redundant. Capital allocations are now public for prospective traders and investors.

The hope is for traders to quickly know where they stand in the investor pecking order.

Similarly, investors get the most aligned advice possible: what could be better than transparently seeing where everyone actually risks their bucks?

DARWIN AuM

Which means – this post is now redundant.

Or is it?

Investor sales: in whose job description?

And then it dawned on me that something else is going on. Please read on – I’ll make my point further down, but a bit of an intro is required.

Living off independent trader is all about trading consistently – e.g. grow personal capital and beat living costs. Repeat. Trouble is, trading assets in the tens / lower hundreds of thousands (e.g. you belong to 99% of man-kind), you can:

  1. Keep risk “reasonable”. Preserve capital, spending decades before you beat your living costs. Trade pea-nuts, make pea-nuts.
  2. Leverage pea-nuts 500:1 and pray it goes well. Except – this 99.99% guaranteed to fail. A pretty time and capital intensive road to nowhere 🙁
  3. Approach 1, managing investor alongside personal capital

Darwinex was founded by a trader who tried 1 & 2, and concluded that 3 was the only really viable option – but learnt first-hand that a “1-man asset manager” is 4 simultaneous full time jobs:

  1. Front office: Develop, implement & maintain a strategy that consistently beats the market – conditio sine qua none
  2. Sales: Attract investors without credibility (why would they believe that you really, really make money?)…
  3. Back-office: Service  existing investors – have you ever had to explain to an investor that yes, unfortunately drawdowns are part of trading?
  4. Compliance: Meet regulatory requirements – acquiring (and perhaps more importantly!) servicing a regulatory licence is both expensive and time consuming

Steps 3 & 4 are firmly on Darwinex’s plate. The DARWIN Exchange offers DARWIN Providers a regulatory and technological platform to focus solely on the trading.

Step 1 is strictly on the trader’s side. It’s a competitive (darwinian!) selection and there’s no investors if your trading sucks.

What about sales?

Well – sales could be teamwork. Darwinex is certainly investing time and money into technology to more efficiently source investors – and organic investor AuM are growing along. There are now 10+ strategies managing more than USD 200k / head – a modest number, but not bad considering the investor platform only went live early in 2016. In that sense, traders topping the filters that investors most care about (return, D-Score, etc.)  can expect 3rd party investor capital in the hundreds of thousands of USD.

Is that it?

Committed traders do better than “expect”

Yes: AuM numbers are not earth-shattering (yet). And here’s the news: they won’t be until the trader movement kick-starts the following virtuous circle:

  1. Investors win consistently, because…
  2. A steady supply of investable traders wins consistently

Taken as a whole, current investors are doing promisingly well – but the supply of investable traders on the platform remains thin. For this reason, in addition to further developing trader and investor technology, increasing the supply of investable traders will remain the core priority. Yes, there will be efforts done on the investor side (in addition to existing B2C traction, we are regularly approached by family offices and asset managers) – but investors won’t be as prioritised in the coming months in the same way that attracting traders will.

Put it another way: the reason why we’ll continue to grow Darwinia is that, for now, hundreds of thousands (not millions) are what you can expect from 3rd party investors.

But then again, if you have an investable strategy – you can already engage your friends and family circle to manage their monies via a regulatory & technologically sound set-up. If you’re genuinely good, you’ll stand head-and-shoulders among the trader community, who’ll give you the credibility you lacked to date.

Given that opportunity, if you’re really committed to making a living as a trader – is it really so smart to sit back expecting investors to arrive?

Have you told your friends that your evolution is now investable?

 

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Starting October 24th, Fx and XAUUSD swaps will be charged in triple size on Wednesdays

16 October 2018

Please be informed that starting on Wednesday, October 24th 2018, Fx and XAUUSD swaps will be charged in triple size on Wednesdays (instead of Thursdays). Below you can find a brief summary of the different swaps charges for the assets we offer.    Instrument Swaps  FX Daily at 17:00 NY City time (in triple size on […]

Please be informed that starting on Wednesday, October 24th 2018, Fx and XAUUSD swaps will be charged in triple size on Wednesdays (instead of Thursdays).

Below you can find a brief summary of the different swaps charges for the assets we offer.

 


 Instrument Swaps 
FX Daily at 17:00 NY City time (in triple size on Wednesdays*)

Exceptions: USD/CAD and USD/TRY, charged triple size on Thursdays.

Commodities
Gold (XAUUSD) Daily at 17:00 NY City time (in triple size on Wednesdays*)
Rest of Commodities Daily at 17:00 NY City time (in triple size on Wednesdays)
Indices Daily on market close (in triple size on Fridays)
Stocks Daily on market close (in triple size on Fridays)
Cryptocurrencies Daily 17:00 NY City time (in triple size on Thursdays)

*Starting on Wednesday, October 24th 2018.

 

As always, at info@darwinex.com we’ll be happy to assist you!

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Choose among several banks when sending funds to your Wallet

13 September 2018

When sending funds to your Wallet via bank transfer, you can now choose among several banks. These banks are: – Santander UK – NatWest – Banc Sabadell London Choose whichever you prefer as the destination bank of your monies. After When clicking “Next”, you’ll receive all the details for the bank transfer on the screen […]

When sending funds to your Wallet via bank transfer, you can now choose among several banks. These banks are:

  • – Santander UK
  • – NatWest
  • – Banc Sabadell London

bank transfer options

Choose whichever you prefer as the destination bank of your monies. After When clicking “Next”, you’ll receive all the details for the bank transfer on the screen and via email.

Amended Trading Hours due to U.S. Labour Day on September 3rd, 2018

30 August 2018

Please note the amended Darwinex trading hours for the upcoming U.S. Labour Day on September 3rd, 2018. All times are in UK (BST) time.    Instrument Trading Hours on September 3rd 2018  COMMODITIES   Gold 23:01 Sun – 17:59 Mon Silver 23:00 Sun – 18:00 Mon Platinum 23:00 Sun – 18:00 Mon Palladium 23:00 Sun – 18:00 Mon US […]

Please note the amended Darwinex trading hours for the upcoming U.S. Labour Day on September 3rd, 2018. All times are in UK (BST) time.

 


 Instrument Trading Hours on September 3rd 2018
 COMMODITIES  
Gold 23:01 Sun – 17:59 Mon
Silver 23:00 Sun – 18:00 Mon
Platinum 23:00 Sun – 18:00 Mon
Palladium 23:00 Sun – 18:00 Mon
US Crude 23:00 Sun – 17:45 Mon
Natural Gas 23:00 Sun – 17:45 Mon
 INDICES  
Japan 225 23:00 Sun – 18:00 Mon 
 US SPX 500 23:00 Sun – 18:00 Mon
 US Tech 100 23:00 Sun – 18:00 Mon
Wall Street 30 23:00 Sun – 18:00 Mon
US STOCKS
All US stocks CLOSED

 

The rest of the assets will trade according to their usual trading time. As always, at info@darwinex.com we’ll be happy to assist you!

UK100 index CFD will be closed on Monday 27th August

20 August 2018

Please note that the UK100 index CFD will be closed on Monday 27th August due to UK Summer Bank Holiday. All other assets will trade according to the usual trading hours. 

Please note that the UK100 index CFD will be closed on Monday 27th August due to UK Summer Bank Holiday. All other assets will trade according to the usual trading hours. 

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ESMA leverage on DEMO trading accounts as of July 26th

18 July 2018

New ESMA rules are around the corner and we want you to be prepared. Between July 24th and 25th, we’ll start modifying leverage conditions of assets on demo trading accounts. This way, as of July 26th, you’ll be able to check out how new ESMA conditions affect your demo accounts and be prepared for the […]

New ESMA rules are around the corner and we want you to be prepared.

Between July 24th and 25th, we’ll start modifying leverage conditions of assets on demo trading accounts. This way, as of July 26th, you’ll be able to check out how new ESMA conditions affect your demo accounts and be prepared for the leverage transition on real accounts.

Note that this only affects demo trading accounts. Transition to ESMA leverage restrictions on real trading accounts will follow the announced roadmap.

Darwinex Amended Trading Hours (US Independence Day)

27 June 2018

Please note the amended Darwinex trading hours for the upcoming US Independence Day holiday on 3 & 4 July 2018 (all times are in UK time).  Instrument 3 July 2018 (Tue) 4 July 2018 (Wed)  FX 22:05 Mon – 22:00 Tue 22:05 Tue – 22:00 Wed   DARWINS 22:05 Mon – 22:00 Tue 22:05 Tue – 22:00 Wed […]

Please note the amended Darwinex trading hours for the upcoming US Independence Day holiday on 3 & 4 July 2018 (all times are in UK time).

 Instrument 3 July 2018 (Tue) 4 July 2018 (Wed)
 FX 22:05 Mon – 22:00 Tue 22:05 Tue – 22:00 Wed
  DARWINS 22:05 Mon – 22:00 Tue 22:05 Tue – 22:00 Wed
 COMMODITIES    
Gold* 23:01 Mon – 21:59 Tue 23:01 Tue – 18:00 Wed
Silver* 23:00 Mon – 22:00 Tue 23:00 Tue – 18:00 Wed
Platinum* 23:00 Mon – 22:00 Tue 23:00 Tue – 18:00 Wed
Palladium* 23:00 Mon – 22:00 Tue 23:00 Tue – 18:00 Wed
US Crude* 23:00 Mon – 22:00 Tue 23:00 Tue – 17:45 Wed
Natural Gas* 23:00 Mon – 22:00 Tue 23:00 Tue – 17:45 Wed
 INDICES    
Australia 200 23:00 Mon – 22:00 Tue 23:00 Tue – 22:00 Wed
 Europe 50 23:00 Mon – 22:00 Tue 23:00 Tue – 22:00 Wed
France 40 23:00 Mon – 22:00 Tue 23:00 Tue – 22:00 Wed
Germany 30 07:00 – 21:00 07:00 – 21:00
Spain 35 07:00 – 19:00 07:00 – 19:00
Japan 225* 23:00 Mon – 18:15  Tue 23:00 Tue – 18:00 Wed
 UK 100 23:00 Mon – 22:00  Tue 23:00 Tue – 22:00 Wed
 US SPX 500* 23:00 Mon – 18:15 Tue 23:00 Tue – 18:00 Wed
 US Tech 100* 23:00 Mon – 18:15 Tue 23:00 Tue – 18:00 Wed
Wall Street 30* 23:00 Mon – 18:15 Tue 23:00 Tue – 18:00 Wed
 CRYPTO    
All Crypto Instruments  22:05 Mon – 22:00 Tue 22:05 Tue – 22:00 Wed
*Amended Darwinex trading hours.

As always, at info@darwinex.com we’ll be happy to assist you!

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