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What can a profitable trader expect from investors?

12 August 2016

A valued Darwinex trader e-mailed asking quite a while ago: what can a profitable trader expect from Darwinex?

I promised to answer on a blog-post – something I’ve failed to do for 5 months running …

Trader AuM (assets under management) now public

This post was so long in the making, in fact, that our functionality pipeline made the question redundant. Capital allocations are now public for prospective traders and investors.

The hope is for traders to quickly know where they stand in the investor pecking order.

Similarly, investors get the most aligned advice possible: what could be better than transparently seeing where everyone actually risks their bucks?

DARWIN AuM

Which means – this post is now redundant.

Or is it?

Investor sales: in whose job description?

And then it dawned on me that something else is going on. Please read on – I’ll make my point further down, but a bit of an intro is required.

Living off independent trader is all about trading consistently – e.g. grow personal capital and beat living costs. Repeat. Trouble is, trading assets in the tens / lower hundreds of thousands (e.g. you belong to 99% of man-kind), you can:

  1. Keep risk “reasonable”. Preserve capital, spending decades before you beat your living costs. Trade pea-nuts, make pea-nuts.
  2. Leverage pea-nuts 500:1 and pray it goes well. Except – this 99.99% guaranteed to fail. A pretty time and capital intensive road to nowhere 🙁
  3. Approach 1, managing investor alongside personal capital

Darwinex was founded by a trader who tried 1 & 2, and concluded that 3 was the only really viable option – but learnt first-hand that a “1-man asset manager” is 4 simultaneous full time jobs:

  1. Front office: Develop, implement & maintain a strategy that consistently beats the market – conditio sine qua none
  2. Sales: Attract investors without credibility (why would they believe that you really, really make money?)…
  3. Back-office: Service  existing investors – have you ever had to explain to an investor that yes, unfortunately drawdowns are part of trading?
  4. Compliance: Meet regulatory requirements – acquiring (and perhaps more importantly!) servicing a regulatory licence is both expensive and time consuming

Steps 3 & 4 are firmly on Darwinex’s plate. The DARWIN Exchange offers DARWIN Providers a regulatory and technological platform to focus solely on the trading.

Step 1 is strictly on the trader’s side. It’s a competitive (darwinian!) selection and there’s no investors if your trading sucks.

What about sales?

Well – sales could be teamwork. Darwinex is certainly investing time and money into technology to more efficiently source investors – and organic investor AuM are growing along. There are now 10+ strategies managing more than USD 200k / head – a modest number, but not bad considering the investor platform only went live early in 2016. In that sense, traders topping the filters that investors most care about (return, D-Score, etc.)  can expect 3rd party investor capital in the hundreds of thousands of USD.

Is that it?

Committed traders do better than “expect”

Yes: AuM numbers are not earth-shattering (yet). And here’s the news: they won’t be until the trader movement kick-starts the following virtuous circle:

  1. Investors win consistently, because…
  2. A steady supply of investable traders wins consistently

Taken as a whole, current investors are doing promisingly well – but the supply of investable traders on the platform remains thin. For this reason, in addition to further developing trader and investor technology, increasing the supply of investable traders will remain the core priority. Yes, there will be efforts done on the investor side (in addition to existing B2C traction, we are regularly approached by family offices and asset managers) – but investors won’t be as prioritised in the coming months in the same way that attracting traders will.

Put it another way: the reason why we’ll continue to grow Darwinia is that, for now, hundreds of thousands (not millions) are what you can expect from 3rd party investors.

But then again, if you have an investable strategy – you can already engage your friends and family circle to manage their monies via a regulatory & technologically sound set-up. If you’re genuinely good, you’ll stand head-and-shoulders among the trader community, who’ll give you the credibility you lacked to date.

Given that opportunity, if you’re really committed to making a living as a trader – is it really so smart to sit back expecting investors to arrive?

Have you told your friends that your evolution is now investable?

 

Last News

Trading Hours for US Presidents’ Day on 17th February 2020

4 February 2020

Please note that the following trading hours will apply on Monday 17th February 2020. All times are in GMT+0 (London) time. During this time spreads may be wider and liquidity may be thinner. Bank holidays may also give rise to changes in the applicable swap rates.   Commodities  Monday 17th Febuary 2020 XAUUSD 23:01 Sun – 17:59 […]

Please note that the following trading hours will apply on Monday 17th February 2020. All times are in GMT+0 (London) time. During this time spreads may be wider and liquidity may be thinner. Bank holidays may also give rise to changes in the applicable swap rates.

 

Commodities  Monday 17th Febuary 2020
XAUUSD 23:01 Sun – 17:59 Mon
XAGUSD 23:00:01 Sun – 17:59:50 Mon
XPTUSD 23:00:01 Sun – 17:59:50 Mon
XPDUSD 23:00:01 Sun – 17:59:50 Mon
XTIUSD 23:00:01 Sun – 17:44:50 Mon
XNGUSD 23:00:01 Sun – 17:44:50 Mon
Índices
J225 23:00 Sun – 18:00 Mon
SPX500 23:00 Sun – 18:00 Mon
NDX 23:00 Sun – 18:00 Mon
WS30 23:00 Sun – 18:00 Mon
US stocks
All CLOSED

 


The rest of the assets will trade according to their usual trading time. As always, at info@darwinex.com we’ll be happy to assist you!

Upcoming Holidays in China and Australia

23 January 2020

Please be aware that the Chinese New Year will take place between January 24th and January 30th. Furthermore, Australia Day will be held on January 27th. Kindly note that during this time spreads may be wider and liquidity may be thinner. Also, the following amended trading hours will apply on Monday 27th January 2020. Time in […]

Please be aware that the Chinese New Year will take place between January 24th and January 30th. Furthermore, Australia Day will be held on January 27th. Kindly note that during this time spreads may be wider and liquidity may be thinner.

Also, the following amended trading hours will apply on Monday 27th January 2020. Time in GMT+0 (London) time.


 

Indices  Monday 27th January 2020
AUS200 06:10 – 22:00

 


The rest of the assets will trade according to their usual trading time.

As always, at info@darwinex.com we’ll be happy to assist you!

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Opening of orders in the XPDUSD asset blocked until further notice

22 January 2020

Due to the global palladium shortage and the impossibility of offering reasonable spreads due to the lack of liquidity, we’ve blocked the opening of trades in the XPDUSD asset until further notice. For any questions, don’t hesitate to reach out to us here or, if it’s about your specific case, via email at info@darwinex.com.

Due to the global palladium shortage and the impossibility of offering reasonable spreads due to the lack of liquidity, we’ve blocked the opening of trades in the XPDUSD asset until further notice. For any questions, don’t hesitate to reach out to us here or, if it’s about your specific case, via email at info@darwinex.com.

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Upcoming Holiday In New Zealand Resulting In The Possibility Of Wider Spread

16 January 2020

Please be aware that there is a public holiday in New Zealand on Monday, January 20th during which spreads may be wider and liquidity may be thinner. For any questions, reach out to info@darwinex.com.

Please be aware that there is a public holiday in New Zealand on Monday, January 20th during which spreads may be wider and liquidity may be thinner. For any questions, reach out to info@darwinex.com.

Margin increase for XAUUSD (Professional Clients only)

9 January 2020

Our margin requirement for the XAUUSD asset for Professional Clients is changing on Friday (January 10th 2020) around 17:00 GMT due to the US-Iran uncertainty. The new margin requirement will be 2% as opposed to the previous 1%. It will remain in place until further notice and will affect both existing and new positions. Kindly […]

Our margin requirement for the XAUUSD asset for Professional Clients is changing on Friday (January 10th 2020) around 17:00 GMT due to the US-Iran uncertainty.

The new margin requirement will be 2% as opposed to the previous 1%. It will remain in place until further notice and will affect both existing and new positions.

Kindly make sure you have enough available margin and equity in your account for the new margin level.

Need help? Please do not hesitate to contact us at info@darwinex.com.

Darwinex Trading Hours for the 2019 Christmas & New Year Holiday Period

18 December 2019

Please find below the Darwinex Trading Schedule for the 2019 Christmas and New Year Holiday Period. All times are displayed in UK time (GMT) and changes to regular trading hours are highlighted in red.

Christmas is around the corner!

Please find below the Darwinex Trading Schedule for the 2019 Christmas and New Year Holiday Period. All times are displayed in UK time (GMT) and changes to regular trading hours are highlighted in red.

Also note that during the Cristmas and New Year holiday period spreads may widen and swaps may be affected by the ‘turn’ effect. The ‘turn’ effect is a phenomenon that exists in financial markets which is caused by supply and demand for funding over key dates such as year or quarter-end. This can create anomalies in the forward curves for certain currencies, and we are already beginning to see this priced into the year-end swap points that we receive from our liquidity providers.

Further, you may want to check out what happens if you want to buy/sell a DARWIN which has underlying trades open with different opening/closing times.

Christmas 2019

DARWINs Tuesday 24th December Wednesday 25th December Thursday 26th December
All DARWINs 22:05 Mon – 21:59 Tue Closed 22:05 Wed – 21:59 Thu
FX Tuesday 24th December Wednesday 25th December Thursday 26th December
All FX Instruments 22:04:01 Mon – 21:59:50 Tue Closed 22:04:01 Wed – 21:59:50 Thu
Commodities Tuesday 24th December Wednesday 25th December Thursday 26th December
XAUUSD 23:01 Mon – 18:29 Tue Closed 23:01 Wed – 21:59 Thu
XAGUSD 23:00:01 Mon – 18:29:50 Tue Closed 23:00:01 Wed – 21:59:50 Thu
XPTUSD 23:00:01 Mon – 18:44:50 Tue Closed 23:00:01 Wed – 21:59:50 Thu
XPDUSD 23:00:01 Mon – 18:44:50 Tue Closed 23:00:01 Wed – 21:59:50 Thu
XTIUSD 23:00:01 Mon – 18:29:50 Tue Closed 23:00:01 Wed – 21:50:50 Thu
XNGUSD 23:00:01 Mon – 18:29:50 Tue Closed 23:00:01 Wed – 21:59:50 Thu
Indices Tuesday 24th December Wednesday 25th December Thursday 26th December
AUS200 23:00 Mon – 03:30 Tue Closed Closed
STOXX50E Closed Closed Closed
FCHI40 23:00 Mon – 13:00 Tue Closed Closed
GDAXI Closed Closed Closed
J225 23:00 Mon – 18:15 Tue Closed Closed
SPA35 07:00 – 13:00 Closed Closed
UK100 23:00 Mon – 12:50 Tue Closed Closed
SPX500 23:00 Mon – 18:15 Tue Closed Closed
NDX 23:00 Mon – 18:15 Tue Closed Closed
WS30 23:00 Mon – 18:15 Tue Closed Closed
US Stocks Tuesday 24th December Wednesday 25th December Thursday 26th December
All US stocks 14:31 – 17:59 Closed 14:31 – 20:59
Crypto Tuesday 24th December Wednesday 25th December Thursday 26th December
All Crypto Instruments 22:05 Mon – 22:00 Tue 22:05 Tue – 22:00 Wed 22:05 Wed – 22:00 Thu


New Year 2020

DARWINs Tuesday 31st December Wednesday 1st January Thursday 2nd January
All DARWINs 22:05 Mon – 21:59 Tue Closed 22:05 Wed – 21:59 Thu
FX Tuesday 31st December Wednesday 1st January Thursday 2nd January
All FX Instruments 22:04:01 Mon – 21:59:50 Tue Closed 22:04:01 Wed – 21:59:50 Thu
Commodities Tuesday 31st December Wednesday 1st January Thursday 2nd January
XAUUSD 23:01 Mon – 21:59 Tue Closed 23:01 Wed – 21:59 Thu
XAGUSD 23:00:01 Mon – 21:59:50 Tue Closed 23:00:01 Wed – 21:50:50 Thu
XPTUSD 23:00:01 Mon – 21:59:50 Tue Closed 23:00:01 Wed – 21:59:50 Thu
XPDUSD 23:00:01 Mon – 21:59:50 Tue Closed 23:00:01 Wed – 21:59:50 Thu
XTIUSD 23:00:01 Mon – 21:59:50 Tue Closed 23:00:01 Wed – 21:59:50 Thu
XNGUSD 23:00:01 Mon– 21:59:50 Tue Closed 23:00:01 Wed – 21:59:50 Thu
Indices Tuesday 31st December Wednesday 1st January Thursday 2nd January
AUS200 23:00 Mon – 03:30 Tue Closed 23:00 Wed – 22:00 Thu
STOXX50E Closed Closed 23:00 Wed – 22:00 Thu
FCHI40 23:00 Mon – 13:00 Tue Closed 23:00 Wed – 22:00 Thu
GDAXI Closed Closed 07:00 – 21:00
J225 23:00 Mon – 22:00 Tue Closed 23:00 Wed – 22:00 Thu
SPA35 07:00 – 13:00 Closed 07:00 – 19:00
UK100 23:00 Mon – 12:50 Tue Closed Closed
SPX500 23:00 Mon – 22:00 Tue Closed 23:00 Wed – 22:00 Thu
NDX 23:00 Mon – 22:00 Tue Closed 23:00 Wed – 22:00 Thu
WS30 23:00 Mon – 22:00 Tue Closed 23:00 Wed – 22:00 Thu
US Stocks Tuesday 31st December Wednesday 1st January Thursday 2nd January
All US stocks 14:31 – 20:59 Closed 14:31 – 20:59
Crypto Tuesday 31st December Wednesday 1st January Thursday 2nd January
All Crypto Instruments 22:05 Mon – 22:00 Tue 22:05 Tue – 22:00 Wed 22:05 Wed – 22:00 Thu

 


As always, if you have any queries, please feel free to contact us at info@darwinex.com.

The Darwinex Team wishes you a Merry Xmas and a Happy New Year!

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