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What can a profitable trader expect from investors?

12 August 2016

A valued Darwinex trader e-mailed asking quite a while ago: what can a profitable trader expect from Darwinex?

I promised to answer on a blog-post – something I’ve failed to do for 5 months running …

Trader AuM (assets under management) now public

This post was so long in the making, in fact, that our functionality pipeline made the question redundant. Capital allocations are now public for prospective traders and investors.

The hope is for traders to quickly know where they stand in the investor pecking order.

Similarly, investors get the most aligned advice possible: what could be better than transparently seeing where everyone actually risks their bucks?

DARWIN AuM

Which means – this post is now redundant.

Or is it?

Investor sales: in whose job description?

And then it dawned on me that something else is going on. Please read on – I’ll make my point further down, but a bit of an intro is required.

Living off independent trader is all about trading consistently – e.g. grow personal capital and beat living costs. Repeat. Trouble is, trading assets in the tens / lower hundreds of thousands (e.g. you belong to 99% of man-kind), you can:

  1. Keep risk “reasonable”. Preserve capital, spending decades before you beat your living costs. Trade pea-nuts, make pea-nuts.
  2. Leverage pea-nuts 500:1 and pray it goes well. Except – this 99.99% guaranteed to fail. A pretty time and capital intensive road to nowhere 🙁
  3. Approach 1, managing investor alongside personal capital

Darwinex was founded by a trader who tried 1 & 2, and concluded that 3 was the only really viable option – but learnt first-hand that a “1-man asset manager” is 4 simultaneous full time jobs:

  1. Front office: Develop, implement & maintain a strategy that consistently beats the market – conditio sine qua none
  2. Sales: Attract investors without credibility (why would they believe that you really, really make money?)…
  3. Back-office: Service  existing investors – have you ever had to explain to an investor that yes, unfortunately drawdowns are part of trading?
  4. Compliance: Meet regulatory requirements – acquiring (and perhaps more importantly!) servicing a regulatory licence is both expensive and time consuming

Steps 3 & 4 are firmly on Darwinex’s plate. The DARWIN Exchange offers DARWIN Providers a regulatory and technological platform to focus solely on the trading.

Step 1 is strictly on the trader’s side. It’s a competitive (darwinian!) selection and there’s no investors if your trading sucks.

What about sales?

Well – sales could be teamwork. Darwinex is certainly investing time and money into technology to more efficiently source investors – and organic investor AuM are growing along. There are now 10+ strategies managing more than USD 200k / head – a modest number, but not bad considering the investor platform only went live early in 2016. In that sense, traders topping the filters that investors most care about (return, D-Score, etc.)  can expect 3rd party investor capital in the hundreds of thousands of USD.

Is that it?

Committed traders do better than “expect”

Yes: AuM numbers are not earth-shattering (yet). And here’s the news: they won’t be until the trader movement kick-starts the following virtuous circle:

  1. Investors win consistently, because…
  2. A steady supply of investable traders wins consistently

Taken as a whole, current investors are doing promisingly well – but the supply of investable traders on the platform remains thin. For this reason, in addition to further developing trader and investor technology, increasing the supply of investable traders will remain the core priority. Yes, there will be efforts done on the investor side (in addition to existing B2C traction, we are regularly approached by family offices and asset managers) – but investors won’t be as prioritised in the coming months in the same way that attracting traders will.

Put it another way: the reason why we’ll continue to grow Darwinia is that, for now, hundreds of thousands (not millions) are what you can expect from 3rd party investors.

But then again, if you have an investable strategy – you can already engage your friends and family circle to manage their monies via a regulatory & technologically sound set-up. If you’re genuinely good, you’ll stand head-and-shoulders among the trader community, who’ll give you the credibility you lacked to date.

Given that opportunity, if you’re really committed to making a living as a trader – is it really so smart to sit back expecting investors to arrive?

Have you told your friends that your evolution is now investable?

 

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Trading Hours for the US Martin Luther King Day on 21st January 2019

15 January 2019

Please note that the following trading hours will apply on Monday 21st January 2019. All times are in GMT+0 (London) time. Commodities   Monday 21st January 2019 Gold 23:01 Sun – 18:00 Mon Silver 23:00 Sun – 18:00 Mon Platinum 23:00 Sun – 18:00 Mon Palladium 23:00 Sun – 18:00 Mon US Crude 23:00 Sun – 17:45 […]

Please note that the following trading hours will apply on Monday 21st January 2019. All times are in GMT+0 (London) time.

Commodities   Monday 21st January 2019
Gold 23:01 Sun – 18:00 Mon
Silver 23:00 Sun – 18:00 Mon
Platinum 23:00 Sun – 18:00 Mon
Palladium 23:00 Sun – 18:00 Mon
US Crude 23:00 Sun – 17:45 Mon
US Natural Gas 23:00 Sun – 17:45 Mon
Indices
J225 23:00 Sun – 18:00 Mon
SPX500 23:00 Sun – 18:00 Mon
NDX 23:00 Sun – 18:00 Mon
WS30 23:00 Sun – 18:00 Mon

 


The rest of the assets will trade according to their usual trading time.

As always, at info@darwinex.com we’ll be happy to assist you!

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Darwinex Trading Hours for the 2018 Christmas & New Year Holiday Period

18 December 2018

Christmas is around the corner! Please find below the Darwinex Trading Schedule for the 2018 Christmas and New Year Holiday Period (all times are displayed in UK time and changes to regular trading hours are highlighted in red). Also note that during the Cristmas and New Year holiday period spreads may widen and swaps may […]

Christmas is around the corner!

Please find below the Darwinex Trading Schedule for the 2018 Christmas and New Year Holiday Period (all times are displayed in UK time and changes to regular trading hours are highlighted in red).

Also note that during the Cristmas and New Year holiday period spreads may widen and swaps may be affected by the ‘turn’ effect. The ‘turn’ effect is a phenomenon that exists in financial markets which is caused by supply and demand for funding over key dates such as year or quarter-end. This can create anomalies in the forward curves for certain currencies, and we are already beginning to see this priced into the year-end swap points that we receive from our liquidity providers.

Christmas 2018

DARWINs Monday 24th December Tuesday 25th December Wednesday 26th December
All DARWINs 22:05 Sun – 18:45 Mon Closed 22:05 Tue – 21:59 Wed
FX Monday 24th December Tuesday 25th December Wednesday 26th December
All FX Instruments 22:05 Sun – 18:45 Mon Closed 22:01:01 Tue – 21:59:50 Wed
Commodities Monday 24th December Tuesday 25th December Wednesday 26th December
Gold 23:01 Sun – 18:45 Mon Closed 23:01 Tue – 21:59 Wed
Silver 23:00 Sun – 18:45 Mon Closed 23:00 Tue – 21:50:50 Wed
Platinum 23:00 Sun – 18:45 Mon Closed 23:00 Tue – 22:00 Wed
Palladium 23:00 Sun – 18:45 Mon Closed 23:00 Tue – 22:00 Wed
US Crude 23:00 Sun – 18:30 Mon Closed 23:00 Tue – 22:00 Wed
US Natural Gas 23:00 Sun – 18:30 Mon Closed 23:00 Tue – 22:00 Wed
Indices Monday 24th December Tuesday 25th December Wednesday 26th December
AUS200 23:00 Sun – 03:30 Mon Closed Closed
STOXX50E Closed Closed Closed
FCHI40 23:00 Sun – 13:00 Mon Closed Closed
GDAXI Closed Closed Closed
J225 23:00 Sun – 18:15 Mon Closed Closed
SPA35 07:00 – 13:00 Closed Closed
UK100 23:00 Sun – 12:50 Mon Closed Closed
SPX500 23:00 Sun – 18:15 Mon Closed Closed
NDX 23:00 Sun – 18:15 Mon Closed Closed
WS30 23:00 Sun – 18:15 Mon Closed Closed
US Stocks Monday 24th December Tuesday 25th December Wednesday 26th December
All US stocks 14:31 – 17:59 Closed 14:31 – 20:59
Crypto Monday 24th December Tuesday 25th December Wednesday 26th December
All Crypto Instruments 22:05 Sun – 22:00 Mon 22:05 Mon – 22:00 Tue 22:05 Tue – 22:00 Wed


New Year 2019

DARWINs Monday 31st December Tuesday 1st January Wednesday 2nd January
All DARWINs 22:05 Sun – 21:59 Mon Closed 22:05 Tue – 21:59 Wed
FX Monday 31st December Tuesday 1st January Wednesday 2nd January
All FX Instruments 22:05 Sun – 21:59:50 Mon Closed 22:01:01 Tue – 21:59:50 Wed
Commodities Monday 31st December Tuesday 1st January Wednesday 2nd January
Gold 23:01 Sun – 21:59 Mon Closed 23:01 Tue – 21:59 Wed
Silver 23:00 Sun – 21:59:50 Mon Closed 23:00 Tue – 21:50:50 Wed
Platinum 23:00 Sun – 22:00 Mon Closed 23:00 Tue – 22:00 Wed
Palladium 23:00 Sun – 22:00 Mon Closed 23:00 Tue – 22:00 Wed
US Crude 23:00 Sun – 22:00 Mon Closed 23:00 Tue – 22:00 Wed
US Natural Gas 23:00 Sun – 22:00 Mon Closed 23:00 Tue – 22:00 Wed
Indices Monday 31st December Tuesday 1st January Wednesday 2nd January
AUS200 23:00 Sun – 03:30 Mon Closed 23:00 Tue – 22:00 Wed
STOXX50E Closed Closed 23:00 Tue – 22:00 Wed
FCHI40 23:00 Sun – 13:00 Mon Closed 23:00 Tue – 22:00 Wed
GDAXI Closed Closed 07:00 – 21:00
J225 23:00 Sun – 22:00 Mon Closed 23:00 Tue – 22:00 Wed
SPA35 07:00 – 13:00 Closed 07:00 – 19:00
UK100 23:00 Sun – 12:50 Mon Closed Closed
SPX500 23:00 Sun – 22:00 Mon Closed 23:00 Tue – 22:00 Wed
NDX 23:00 Sun – 22:00 Mon Closed 23:00 Tue – 22:00 Wed
WS30 23:00 Sun – 22:00 Mon Closed 23:00 Tue – 22:00 Wed
US Stocks Monday 31st December Tuesday 1st January Wednesday 2nd January
All US stocks 14:31 – 20:59 Closed 14:31 – 20:59
Crypto Monday 31st December Tuesday 1st January Wednesday 2nd January
All Crypto Instruments 22:05 Sun – 22:00 Mon 22:05 Mon – 22:00 Tue 22:05 Tue – 22:00 Wed

 


As always, if you have any queries, please feel free to contact us at info@darwinex.com.

The Darwinex Team wishes you a Merry Xmas and a Happy New Year!

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UK Parliament Vote on EU Withdrawal Bill (11 December 2018)

9 December 2018

We would like to remind you that the UK Parliament will vote on the EU Withdrawal Bill on 11th December 2018. There is a high degree of uncertainty as to the outcome of the vote and all GBP currency crosses are likely to experience significant volatility with increased risk of market gaps. It is important that you […]

We would like to remind you that the UK Parliament will vote on the EU Withdrawal Bill on 11th December 2018.

There is a high degree of uncertainty as to the outcome of the vote and all GBP currency crosses are likely to experience significant volatility with increased risk of market gaps.

It is important that you have sufficient margin coverage and are comfortable with the exposure on your account as our margin requirements may change going into the vote or depending on the outcome of the vote.

Please feel free to contact us at info@darwinex.com should you need assistance in this regard.

Amended Trading Hours US National Day of Mourning on December 5th 2018

4 December 2018

Please note the amended Darwinex trading hours for the upcoming US National Day of Mourning on December 5th 2018. All times are in UK (GMT+0) time.    Instrument December 5th 2018  INDICES    US SPX 500 23:00 Tue – 14:45 Wed  US Tech 100 23:00 Tue – 14:45 Wed Wall Street 30 23:00 Tue – 14:45 Wed […]

Please note the amended Darwinex trading hours for the upcoming US National Day of Mourning on December 5th 2018. All times are in UK (GMT+0) time.


 

 Instrument December 5th 2018
 INDICES  
 US SPX 500 23:00 Tue – 14:45 Wed
 US Tech 100 23:00 Tue – 14:45 Wed
Wall Street 30 23:00 Tue – 14:45 Wed
 STOCKS  
US Stocks CLOSED

 


The rest of the assets will trade according to their usual trading time. As always, at info@darwinex.com we’ll be happy to assist you!

Amended Trading Hours for the 2018 US Thanksgiving Holidays (Nov. 22nd and 23rd)

20 November 2018

Please note the amended Darwinex trading hours for the upcoming US Thanksgiving holiday period on 22nd and 23rd of November 2018. All times are in UK (GMT+0) time.    Instrument November 22nd 2018 November 23rd 2018  COMMODITIES     Gold 23:01 Wed – 17:59 Thu 23:01 Thu – 18:40 Fri Silver 23:00 Wed – 17:59 Thu 23:00 Thu – […]

Please note the amended Darwinex trading hours for the upcoming US Thanksgiving holiday period on 22nd and 23rd of November 2018. All times are in UK (GMT+0) time.

 


 Instrument November 22nd 2018 November 23rd 2018
 COMMODITIES    
Gold 23:01 Wed – 17:59 Thu 23:01 Thu – 18:40 Fri
Silver 23:00 Wed – 17:59 Thu 23:00 Thu – 18:40 Fri
Platinum 23:00 Wed – 17:59 Thu 23:00 Thu – 18:40 Fri
Palladium 23:00 Wed – 17:59 Thu 23:00 Thu – 18:40 Fri
US Crude 23:00 Wed – 17:44 Thu 23:00 Thu – 17:25 Fri
Natural Gas 23:00 Wed – 17:44 Thu 23:00 Thu – 17:25 Fri
 INDICES    
Japan 225 23:00 Wed – 17:59 Thu  23:00 Thu – 18:10 Fri 
 US SPX 500 23:00 Wed – 17:59 Thu 23:00 Thu – 18:10 Fri 
 US Tech 100 23:00 Wed – 17:59 Thu 23:00 Thu – 18:10 Fri 
Wall Street 30 23:00 Wed – 17:59 Thu 23:00 Thu – 18:10 Fri 
 STOCKS    
US Stocks CLOSED 14:31 Fri – 17:59 Fri 

 

The rest of the assets will trade according to their usual trading time. As always, at info@darwinex.com we’ll be happy to assist you!

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Bitcoin Cash (XBNUSD) trading suspended until further notice

7 November 2018

The BCH fork on November 15th may create a split in the BCH instrument resulting in two currencies, BCH and BSV. Due to the uncertainly around this event, at Darwinex we’ve decided to suspend opening of any new XBNUSD trades with immediate effect.

As traders trading cryptocurrency CFDs sure know, the BCH fork on November 15th may create a split in the BCH instrument (XBNUSD as provided by our liquidity provider LMAX) resulting in two currencies, BCH and BSV.

Due to the uncertainly around this event, at Darwinex we’ve decided to suspend opening of any new XBNUSD trades with immediate effect.

We’ll contact Darwinex traders with open positions in XBNUSD and recommend them to close their positions because as of November 15th our liquidity provider will stop offering liquidity for XBNUSD for an unknown period of time.

For any questions, please contact us at info@darwinex.com.

CFDs are complex instruments and come with a high risk of losing money rapidly due to leverage. 77 % of retail investor accounts lose money when trading CFDs with this provider. You should consider whether you understand how CFDs work and whether you can afford to take the high risk of losing your money.