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Social trading – Is it a free for all?

14 February 2014

Committed traders spend thousands of hours absorbing, processing and acting on market information. “Social” empowers them to post, receive, and thus exchange information, 24*7 with others around the globe.

P2P is THE new paradigm. Unsurprisingly, traders have embraced P2P with gusto.

Social and traders: isn’t this exciting? How about Social trading / Copy-trading / Auto-trading / Mirror trading??

Here’s our take! (Hint: knowing that trading is Intellectual Property, you won’t be surprised!)

Social trading & collaboration

Trades are a time sensitive IP produced by hard to acquire trading skills: knowing a good trader’s current market outlook, or the trade that he just placed is VERY valuable information.

On this account, “social” holds promise. Trading rooms & clusters of “Twitter traders” have formed on a validated psychology principle: group beats individual decision-making. Your information helps me; my information helps you, it’s a win-win, “social trading” here we go!

Collaboration is everything in social trading

 

 

 

 

 

 

Almost, but not quite!

Social trading = free for all?

There’s this tiny little thing: for this to work, my contribution has to be as valuable to you as your contribution is valuable to me.

Otherwise, imagine this conversation between Trader Johnnie and George “Quantum” Soros in 1992. Johnnie, who just placed his first ever trade, reaches out: “Hey George, I’m a trader, you’re a trader, let’s social trade: I’m long the GBP, any thoughts?”.

Absurd, and therefore unlikely! Animal Farm’s unforgettable Napoleon summed it up:

Animal Farm and social trading

 

 

 

“All traders are equal, but some trades are more equal than others”

 

 

 

Free “Social trading” as described above = barter. Barter works… AS LONG AS all parties to it exchange equally valuable contributions.

Luckily for George, trading is an IP industry: no amount of Johnnie trades are of interest to George (this is not to say that knowing ALL trades by ALL Johnnies at any point in time wouldn’t!). Barter and IP are difficult soul-mates: a sustained IP exchange where a trader consistently contributes above average only works if he really likes philanthropy: the communist trader – a very strange creature, indeed!

Social trading – our take

“Social trading” would work IF all traders had similarly valuable IP to contribute. But they don’t. The moment a trader contributes more than he gets, his incentive is to walk. Once he does, the second best trader, who also contributed above average and now also lost access to the best trader’s IP, follows suit. This triggers a race to the bottom that soon becomes noise. At its worst, this is Twitter for traders. Everyone has trades to tweet, alas not all trades are equally valuable.

Social trading – what’s next?

Barter is not the way to exchange valuable information: this ignores the dynamics of intellectual property. Existing “social trading” propositions fall short on this account and thus have flaws that greatly outweigh their benefits to good traders. What’s worse, they’re a self-selection magnet for all sorts of bad stuff that smart traders should best stay away from. Groucho Marx knew when he said: “I wouldn’t join a club that admitted me as a member!”

At Darwinex, we know that, given the right set-up, good traders have valuable IP to contribute, and can benefit from collaboration. Our investor platform is already in private beta, so stay tuned!

 

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Amended Trading Hours U.S. Labor Day 2019

30 August 2019

Please note the amended Darwinex trading hours for the upcoming U.S. Labour Day on September 2nd, 2019.

Please note the amended Darwinex trading hours for the upcoming U.S. Labor Day on September 2nd, 2019. All times are in UK (BST) time.

 


 Instrument Trading Hours on September 2nd 2019
 COMMODITIES  
Gold 23:01 Sun – 17:59 Mon
Silver 23:00 Sun – 18:00 Mon
Platinum 23:00 Sun – 18:00 Mon
Palladium 23:00 Sun – 18:00 Mon
US Crude 23:00 Sun – 17:45 Mon
Natural Gas 23:00 Sun – 17:45 Mon
 INDICES  
Japan 225 23:00 Sun – 18:00 Mon 
 US SPX 500 23:00 Sun – 18:00 Mon
 US Tech 100 23:00 Sun – 18:00 Mon
Wall Street 30 23:00 Sun – 18:00 Mon
US STOCKS
All US stocks CLOSED

 

The rest of the assets will trade according to their usual trading time. As always, at info@darwinex.com we’ll be happy to assist you!

UK100 Closed on August 26th

14 August 2019

Please note that the UK100 index CFD will be closed on Monday August 26th due to UK Summer Bank Holiday. All other assets will trade according to the usual trading hours. 

Please note that the UK100 index CFD will be closed on Monday August 26th due to UK Summer Bank Holiday. All other assets will trade according to the usual trading hours.

DAX Trading Hours Soon to be Extended

9 July 2019

The CFD of the DAX (GDAXI) start trading with an extended schedule as of Monday July 22nd, 2019.

The CFD of the DAX (GDAXI) will soon – probably as of Monday July 22nd – start trading with an extended schedule.

The current schedule is as follows:

  • 07:00 – 21:00 (London) Mon-Thu
  • 07:00 – 20:55 (London) Fri

The extended schedule will be as follows:

  • 01:30 – 21:00 (London) Mon-Thu
  • 01:30 – 20:55 (London) Fri

We’ll update this post with the final implementation date of the extended schedule as soon as possible.

Update on July 18th: the DAX will start trading according to the new schedule on Monday July 22nd.

Note that during the night, GDAXI usually has a wider spread and a lower liquidity than during the day.

Please get in touch at info@darwinex.com for any questions you may have.

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The FCA Makes ESMA’s CFD Restrictions Permanent

4 July 2019

The new measure doesn’t affect us more than the ESMA intervention already did. And it affected us in a positive way, contributing to the improvement of our clients’ performance.

The UK’s Financial Conduct Authority (FCA) made the European Authority’s (ESMA) CFD restrictions permanent this week.

Some reactions to this we saw in user forums implied this was a “ban” of Contracts for Differentes (CFDs). Some even said it was “the end of Darwinex”.

We’d like to clarify that the FCA’s measure makes the restrictions we already applied last year permanent. But nothing else changes. It’s only that this time it’s the national regulator that said this while last year it was the ESMA.

The new measure doesn’t affect us more than the ESMA intervention already did. And it affected us in a positive way, contributing to the improvement of our clients’ performance.

Trading Schedule for the US Independence Day on 3rd and 4th July 2019

27 June 2019

Please note the amended Darwinex trading hours (in red) for the upcoming US Independence Day on 3 & 4 July 2019. All times are in UK (BST) time.

Please note the amended Darwinex trading hours (in red) for the upcoming US Independence Day on 3 & 4 July 2019. All times are in UK (BST) time.

 

FX Wednesday 3rd July Thursday 4th July
All FX Instruments 22:05 Tue – 22:00 Wed 22:05 Wed – 22:00 Thu
DARWINs 22:05 Tue – 21:59 Wed 22:05 Tue – 21:59 Wed
Commodities
Gold 23:01 Tue – 21:59 Wed *23:01 Wed – 18:00 Thu 
Silver 23:00 Tue – 22:00 Wed *23:00 Wed – 18:00 Thu 
Platinum 23:00 Tue – 22:00 Wed *23:00 Wed – 18:00 Thu 
Palladium 23:00 Tue – 22:00 Wed *23:00 Wed – 18:00 Thu 
US Crude 23:00 Tue – 22:00 Wed *23:00 Wed – 17:45 Thu 
US Natural Gas 23:00 Tue – 22:00 Wed *23:00 Wed – 17:45 Thu 
Indices
AUS200 23:00 Tue – 22:00 Wed 23:00 Wed – 22:00 Thu
STOXX50E 23:00 Tue – 22:00 Wed 23:00 Wed – 22:00 Thu
FCHI40 23:00 Tue – 22:00 Wed 23:00 Wed – 22:00 Thu
GDAXI 07:00 – 21:00 07:00 – 21:00
J225 *23:00 Tue – 18:15 Wed *23:00 Wed – 18:00 Thu 
SPA35 07:00 – 19:00 07:00 – 19:00
UK100 23:00 Tue – 22:00 Wed 23:00 Wed – 22:00 Thu
SPX500 *23:00 Tue – 18:15 Wed *23:00 Wed – 18:00 Thu
NDX *23:00 Tue – 18:15 Wed *23:00 Wed – 18:00 Thu 
WS30 *23:00 Tue – 18:15 Wed *23:00 Wed – 18:00 Thu
US stocks 14:31 – 20:59 CLOSED
 
Crypto
All Crypto Instruments 22:05 Tue – 22:00 Wed 22:05 Wed – 22:00 Thu

 

 

The DARWIN Exchange will remain open even if the underlying assets’ market is closed. Should you want to know the standard procedure when you buy/sell a DARWIN whose underlying asset market is closed, we recommend you to read the following Help Center article: What happens if you want to buy/sell a DARWIN which has underlying trades open with different opening/closing times?

As always, at info@darwinex.com we’ll be happy to assist you!

Australia Public Holiday on 10th June 2019

5 June 2019

Please note the amended Darwinex trading hours for the upcoming Bank Holiday in Australia on 10th June 2019 (all times are in UK time).

Please note the amended Darwinex trading hours for the upcoming bank holiday in Australia on 10th June 2019. All times are in UK (BST) time.

Indices  Monday 10th June 2019
AUS200 08:10 – 22:00

 

The rest of the assets will trade according to their usual trading time.

As always, at info@darwinex.com we’ll be happy to assist you!

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