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Social trading – Is it a free for all?

14 February 2014

Committed traders spend thousands of hours absorbing, processing and acting on market information. “Social” empowers them to post, receive, and thus exchange information, 24*7 with others around the globe.

P2P is THE new paradigm. Unsurprisingly, traders have embraced P2P with gusto.

Social and traders: isn’t this exciting? How about Social trading / Copy-trading / Auto-trading / Mirror trading??

Here’s our take! (Hint: knowing that trading is Intellectual Property, you won’t be surprised!)

Social trading & collaboration

Trades are a time sensitive IP produced by hard to acquire trading skills: knowing a good trader’s current market outlook, or the trade that he just placed is VERY valuable information.

On this account, “social” holds promise. Trading rooms & clusters of “Twitter traders” have formed on a validated psychology principle: group beats individual decision-making. Your information helps me; my information helps you, it’s a win-win, “social trading” here we go!

Collaboration is everything in social trading

 

 

 

 

 

 

Almost, but not quite!

Social trading = free for all?

There’s this tiny little thing: for this to work, my contribution has to be as valuable to you as your contribution is valuable to me.

Otherwise, imagine this conversation between Trader Johnnie and George “Quantum” Soros in 1992. Johnnie, who just placed his first ever trade, reaches out: “Hey George, I’m a trader, you’re a trader, let’s social trade: I’m long the GBP, any thoughts?”.

Absurd, and therefore unlikely! Animal Farm’s unforgettable Napoleon summed it up:

Animal Farm and social trading

 

 

 

“All traders are equal, but some trades are more equal than others”

 

 

 

Free “Social trading” as described above = barter. Barter works… AS LONG AS all parties to it exchange equally valuable contributions.

Luckily for George, trading is an IP industry: no amount of Johnnie trades are of interest to George (this is not to say that knowing ALL trades by ALL Johnnies at any point in time wouldn’t!). Barter and IP are difficult soul-mates: a sustained IP exchange where a trader consistently contributes above average only works if he really likes philanthropy: the communist trader – a very strange creature, indeed!

Social trading – our take

“Social trading” would work IF all traders had similarly valuable IP to contribute. But they don’t. The moment a trader contributes more than he gets, his incentive is to walk. Once he does, the second best trader, who also contributed above average and now also lost access to the best trader’s IP, follows suit. This triggers a race to the bottom that soon becomes noise. At its worst, this is Twitter for traders. Everyone has trades to tweet, alas not all trades are equally valuable.

Social trading – what’s next?

Barter is not the way to exchange valuable information: this ignores the dynamics of intellectual property. Existing “social trading” propositions fall short on this account and thus have flaws that greatly outweigh their benefits to good traders. What’s worse, they’re a self-selection magnet for all sorts of bad stuff that smart traders should best stay away from. Groucho Marx knew when he said: “I wouldn’t join a club that admitted me as a member!”

At Darwinex, we know that, given the right set-up, good traders have valuable IP to contribute, and can benefit from collaboration. Our investor platform is already in private beta, so stay tuned!

 

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Trading Schedule for the US Independence Day on 3rd July 2020

30 June 2020

Please note the amended Darwinex trading hours for the upcoming US Independence Day on 3 July 2020.

Please note the amended Darwinex trading hours for the upcoming US Independence Day on 3 July 2020. All times are in UK (BST) time.

FX Friday 3rd July
All FX Instruments 22:04:01 Thu – 21:55:00 Fri
DARWINs 22:05:00 Thu – 21:55:00 Fri
Commodities Friday 3rd July
Gold *23:01:00 Thu – 17:44 Fri 
Silver *23:00:01 Thu – 17:59:50 Fri 
US Crude *23:00:01 Thu – 17:44 Fri 
US Natural Gas *23:00:01 Thu – 17:44 Fri 
Indices Friday 3rd July
AUS200 23:00 Thu – 22:00 Fri
STOXX50E 23:00 Thu – 22:00 Fri
FCHI40 23:00 Thu – 22:00 Fri
GDAXI 07:00 – 21:00
J225 *23:00 Thu – 18:00 Fri 
SPA35 07:00 – 19:00
UK100 23:00 Thu – 22:00 Fri
SPX500 *23:00 Thu – 18:00 Fri
NDX *23:00 Thu – 18:00 Fri 
WS30 *23:00 Thu – 18:00 Fri
Stocks Friday 3rd July
All US stocks CLOSED
 
Crypto Friday 3rd July
All Crypto Instruments 22:05 Wed – 22:00 Thu

*Amended trading hours.

The DARWIN Exchange will remain open even if the underlying assets’ market is closed. Learn about standard procedure when you buy/sell a DARWIN whose underlying asset market is closed: What happens if you want to buy/sell a DARWIN which has underlying trades open with different opening/closing times?

As always, at info@darwinex.com we’ll be happy to assist you!

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Move of DarwinIA allocations to new risk DARWINs

26 June 2020

Next Monday  29 June 2020 13:00 we will move DarwinIA allocations from the DARWINs of VaR 10% to those of VaR 6.5%.

Next Monday  29 June 2020 13:00 we will move DarwinIA allocations from the DARWINs of VaR 10% to those of VaR 6.5%.

For this move, it’s necessary to take into account the PnL of the allocation. That is, if a DARWIN of VaR 10% had an allocation of 20,000 and PnL of 1,000, what it will have after the migration to VaR 6.5% will be

(20000 + 1000) * 10/6.5

If it were a loss instead of a gain, it would be subtracted.

On July 1st the new DarwinIA prizes will be allocated to the 6.5% VaR DARWINs.

Upcoming Holiday in Australia

4 June 2020

Please be aware that there is a public holiday in Australia on 8 June. Please kindly note that during this time spreads may be wider and liquidity may be thinner. Bank holidays may also give rise to changes to the applicable swap rates. Here are the amended Darwinex trading hours for this day. All times are […]

Please be aware that there is a public holiday in Australia on 8 June. Please kindly note that during this time spreads may be wider and liquidity may be thinner. Bank holidays may also give rise to changes to the applicable swap rates.

Here are the amended Darwinex trading hours for this day. All times are in UK (BST) time.

Indices  Monday 8th June 2020
AUS200 08:10 – 22:00

 

The rest of the assets will trade according to their usual trading time.

 

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Platform in Maintenance Mode on May 30-31

29 May 2020

For the rolling out of the changes announced earlier this week, the entire Darwinex platform will be switched to maintenance mode including darwinex.com, mobile apps, FTP service and DARWIN API.

For the rolling out of the changes announced earlier this week, the entire Darwinex platform will be switched to maintenance mode including darwinex.com, mobile apps, FTP service and DARWIN API.

If everything goes as planned, the new DARWINs will be born by the end of the weekend!

Upcoming Holiday In New Zealand Resulting In The Possibility Of Wider Spread

27 May 2020

Please be aware that there is a public holiday in New Zealand on Monday, June 1st during which spreads may be wider and liquidity may be thinner. For any questions, reach out to info@darwinex.com.

Please be aware that there is a public holiday in New Zealand on Monday, June 1st during which spreads may be wider and liquidity may be thinner. For any questions, reach out to info@darwinex.com.

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Upcoming closure of demo investments in DARWINs not present in any live portfolio

Starting today we will gradually close demo investments in those old risk DARWINs that aren’t present in any live portfolio.

Related to the pivot we announced earlier this week, starting today we will gradually close demo investments in old risk DARWINs that aren’t present in any live portfolio. Throughout the coming weeks we will close all demo investments in these DARWINs. Closed investments in old DARWINs won’t be automatically replaced with investments in the new DARWIN. You will need to buy the new version to continue demo investing in the DARWIN again.

To open the investment in the new DARWIN with the same risk/return level you had with the old DARWINs, multiply the old investment amount by 1.54.

CFDs are complex instruments and come with a high risk of losing money rapidly due to leverage. -- % of retail investor accounts lose money when trading CFDs with this provider. You should consider whether you understand how CFDs work and whether you can afford to take the high risk of losing your money.